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Naked Relationships



What is a “Naked Relationship”?
It is a relationship where there is no fear of the destruction of that relationship because of something you might say, do or think. In other words it is a relationship based on unconditional love i.e. God’s love. A Naked Relationship with another human being is impossible without God. The very foundation of a naked relationship is the triune nature of it, Adam-Eve-God. The denial of any aspect of our being is a denial of our very being.

The vast majority of human relationships are mental and materially based. They are mental because they incorporate your belief systems, what you like or dislike, what you judge to be good and evil. They are material because they are based on physical connections such as a brother or sister, Mother or Father.
In order to move beyond materially based relationships we must begin to know ourselves. There can be no knowing of ourselves without knowing God who is the source of all life.
Knowing God is not knowing an image of Him but to know Him as He is right here and now. To often we look to past expressions or images of God and miss what God is right here and now. Paul talked about this very thing when he wrote: From now on, then, we do not know anyone in a purely human way. Even if we have known Christ in a purely human way, yet now we no longer know Him like that. Therefore if anyone is in Christ, there is a new creation; old things have passed away, and look, new things have come. 2Cor.5:16-17 (HCSB)

It is often man’s way to judge things according to their belief systems instead of what is. Jesus pointed this out in his parable about the good Samaritan. He asks the question: “Which of these three do you think proved to be a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of the robbers?” “The one who showed mercy to him,” he said. Lk. 10:36-37 (HCSB)
It was the Jews who pre-judged the Samaritan as a sinner because of their understanding of God’s laws. Their belief system kept them from seeing what was true in the here and now. Jesus was trying to open their eyes to what was through his story.

Almost of all Jesus parables do this exact thing – remove you from your belief system and place you in the here and now to see love.

God is Love and man who Loves is born of God! 1Jn.4:7-8 You see love you see God!!!!!!

Strong adherence to a belief system can blind us to what really is.

We will choose our belief system over love in other words we will choose our image of God over God Himself.

This exact fact was demonstrated in the life of Jesus on earth. It was the Jews who choose their understanding of the Laws of Moses over the Life of love Jesus lived before them. If we are ever able to live naked and unashamed we must not be ones who hold on too tight to our understandings of God, doctrines and belief’s. As the scriptures say: Trust in the LORD with all your heart, and do not rely on your own understanding; think about Him in all your ways,
and He will guide you on the right paths. Prov.3:5

There is a difference between relying on your own understanding and meditating on the Lord as you walk daily in your life. One comes from a remembering of the past the other is found within us in the moment of need. One from Law the other from the Spirit of Love.

A Belief system is like clothing we put on. We think it looks good? We trick ourselves into believing that it defines us. Two Christians meet and often one of the first conversations might go like this: “Where do you go to church? I go to First Baptist, Oh your Baptist I am a Methodist.” What does that do except bring about separation. No one is a Baptist or Methodist – at best these are words to describe a belief system you adhere to or at least try to appear that you adhere to. We do this because we don’t think Christ is enough. For a church or a people to say I am of Christ is not good enough. For someone to show love is not good enough, I need to know what you say you believe. I need to know that you cloth yourself with the same rags I use (Isa.64:6).

Paul wrote in the very first letter of the NT: There is no Jew or Greek, slave or free, male or female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Gal.3:28 (HCSB)
In Genesis we find recorded: This is why a man leaves his father and mother and bonds with his wife, and they become one flesh. Both the man and his wife were naked, yet felt no shame. Gen.2:24-25 (HCSB)

When there is only one there is no shame to be just as you are, no need to add anything. It is to look through the material world and see what is. What is? An eternal spirit manifested in many forms but still only one spirit. This is how two are one and how Christ brought about peace. In doing away with the law (the belief system) the Jews would be able to love the Samaritan and see them as they are, children of God just like the Jews. No longer to be judged according to the fleshly laws, (there clothing) but to be accepted just as they are.
For He is our peace, who made both groups one and tore down the dividing wall of hostility. In His flesh, He did away with the law of the commandments in regulations, so that He might create in Himself one new man from the two, resulting in peace. [He did this so] that He might reconcile both to God in one body through the cross and put the hostility to death by it. Eph.2:14-16 (HCSB)

How many laws or belief’s of yours to you put on others?
Do you accept people who don’t believe like you?
Do you allow others to explore in ways you don’t think is right and proper?
Can people tell you things without fear of you judging them?

The other day a sister shared with me in private a book she was reading. She shared it in private because she knew that if some of her friends found out that they would judge her.
It was the Pharisees named Nicodemus that came to Jesus at Night (Jn.3:1-21) so that none of the other Pharisees would know.

Can you be Naked with the group of Christians you meet with?
Or, Like Nicodemus, do you seek out and explore Christ in the middle of the night where none of your friends can see you?
Nicodemus was not wrong, he was seeking truth. He knew that if he did it in the open he would be persecuted by those who claimed to love God and follow his ways.
Do the people you gather together with unconditionally love you i.e. love you with God’s love? Or do they like you because they think you are like them in your belief system, your clothing?
Its a little odd that in today’s Christian Church in order to be considered a member you must agree on certain beliefs, that Christ’s acceptance of you and your expressed love for Him is not enough.

Do you have “Naked Relationships?” if you don’t you will never know intimacy or experience the joy of oneness.
The first step is to follow the words of Jesus when he said “Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.” Lk.6:37 (HCSB)

Are Christians like Jesus or the Religious Jews?

Then the elders and pastors brought a woman caught in adultery, making her stand in the center. “Teacher,” they said to Him, “this woman was caught in the act of committing adultery. The Bible says: (Matt.5:27-29 “You have heard that it was said, Do not commit adultery. But I tell you, everyone who looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. … For it is better that you lose one of the parts of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.) So what do You say, is she going to hell?” They asked this to trap Him, in order that they might have evidence to accuse Him. Jesus stooped down and started writing on the ground with His finger. When they persisted in questioning Him, He stood up and said to them, “The one without sin among you should be the first to throw her into hell.” Then He stooped down again and continued writing on the ground. When they heard this, they left one by one, starting with the older men. Only He was left, with the woman in the center. When Jesus stood up, He said to her, ” Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?” “No one, Lord,” she answered. “Neither do I condemn you,” said Jesus. “Go, and from now on do not sin any more.”Jn.8:3-11 in today’s language.

This was a woman caught in the very act of adultery, she was probably brought to crowd naked and yet Jesus accepted her as she was, he did not need to know what she believed, or if she was guilty or not – he did not judge her or condemn her he simply forgave her without her even asking.

If we cannot accept others exactly as they are do we really believe that God accepts us as we are? If we can’t accept others nakedness it means we can’t accept our own. We like Adam and Eve before find the leaves of belief’s (the knowledge of good and evil) to cloth ourselves rejecting both the message and blood of Jesus Christ.
Can you be naked, unashamed and intimate with God and all your brothers and sisters?

Do you have or want Naked Relationships?


How Meditation prepares us to Pray in Faith


Paul in his letter to the saints with the overseers and deacons in Philippi writes:
Philippians 4:8 (The Message)
 8-9Summing it all up, friends, I’d say you’ll do best by filling your minds and meditating on things true, noble, reputable, authentic, compelling, gracious—the best, not the worst; the beautiful, not the ugly; things to praise, not things to curse. Put into practice what you learned from me, what you heard and saw and realized. Do that, and God, who makes everything work together, will work you into his most excellent harmonies.


Paul asks the saints to fill the mind and meditate on things true…… Why?

Vs.6 Paul says: Don’t fret or worry. Instead of worrying, pray.

To fret or worry is a condition that plagues many today. Part of the problem is that we accept this mental and emotional condition as normal and just a part of everyday life. Often we enter into a time of prayer because we are feeling “worry” of some kind. The reality is many prayers are not answered because the one petitioning the Lord does not know how to pray. His prayer is not of faith but of fear and worry.

How did Jesus make his Petition Prayer known to the Father?

Mark 4:37-40 And there arose a great storm of wind, and the waves beat into the ship, so that it was now full. And he was in the hinder part of the ship, asleep on a pillow: and they awake him, and say unto him, Master, carest thou not that we perish? And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still. And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm. And he said unto them, Why are ye so fearful? how is it that ye have no faith? (KJV)

Jesus was speaking not only to the Sea but to Peter and the other disciples as well and said “Peace, Be Still”
It was in the Psalms that the words: Be still, and know that I am God Ps 46:10 (KJV) were spoken.
Through faith Jesus remained in stillness and was the very expression of Peace on earth this is how he would Pray.

Vs.7 And the peace of God, which surpasses every thought, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

How do we allow The “Peace of God” to guard both heart and mind?

Paul addresses this very issue in his letter: Finally brothers,
whatever is true
whatever is honorable
whatever is just
whatever is pure
whatever is lovely
whatever is commendable
—if there is any moral excellence and if there is any praise—dwell on these things.

To dwell is from the greek word λογίζομαι 3049. logizomai to reckon, to consider
to reason, decide, conclude; think, suppose. logízomai (the root of the English terms “logic, logical”)

Paul asks us to think about, meditate on and consider Truth. Truth is not a doctrine but the reality that is right inside of you. Jesus said “the kingdom of God is within you” and “you shall know the Truth and truth will set you free” Jn.8:30-32 What more can you ask for?

Consider if you are a true disciple of Jesus? Its not enough to just believe he is the son of God, even Satan believes that. Do you believe and have faith in the words he spoke?

These are not just saying but realities that we can experience now, today as we dwell on His gospel, the good news of what is right now!!
If you believe what Jesus has said why do you still have fears? Jesus words were Mark 9:23-24 “Everything is possible to the one who believes.” Immediately the father of the boy cried out, “I do believe! Help my unbelief.”
How is our unbelief helped?

Meditate on what is lovely – as we consider what is lovely our hearts are filled with love and joy – no longer do we find room in our hearts for fret, worry and unbelief because it has been overwhelmed with love, joy and peace. Isaiah knew this experience when he wrote the words:
You will keep in perfect peace the mind [that is] dependent [on You], for it is trusting in You. Isaiah 26:3 (HCSB)

When one is filled with fear he cannot find God who is love. This is why the scriptures say: 1 Jn.4:18 There is no fear in love; instead, perfect love drives out fear……..(HCSB)

Paul knew that if the saints in Philippi practiced what he had taught them about how to meditate on the lovely and commendable things they had experienced that they would know the love and Peace within themselves:
Do what you have learned and received and heard and seen in me, and the God of peace will be with you. Philippians 4:9 (HCSB)

When you think about or meditate through faith on God’s lovely creation or a commendable act that a brother or sister has done your heart is filled with love and truth not fret or worry and you are able to approach the Lord in peace and faith then, and only then, can you: ….in everything, through prayer and petition with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God. Phil 4:6 (HCSB)


Living Naked

The first Adam stood naked and unashamed before God. Together, God and Adam were One. Adam turned away and left the image of God, the one community, to an existence of material laws of good and evil no longer in community with the Spirit. In the last Adam we see the restoration of that community and communion with Spirit. This last Adam is a man who “does nothing of His own” but everything in communion with the Father of Spirits. It is at the end of his material life on earth Jesus declares that “It is finished”. It is here we find the last Adam both physically and spiritually naked and yet unashamed. Why?

Nakedness is not a state of physically being unclothed but an expression of the “I Am”. It is the state of the being who remembers the One Spirit that God breathed into his good and perfect creation. It is remembering who we are, the image of God. Clothing is an adding to, its foundation is the idea that as you are is not good enough. This is the great lie of the enemy that you “need to become” like God. As long as you are trying to “become” you will always be clothing yourself with fig leaves, living in fear of God and man and trying to justify your existence.

What does it take to know yourself?

Gen.2:25 Both the man and his wife were naked, yet felt no shame. (HCSB)

The thought of being naked in front of a group of peers is the classic dream of dread. The idea of this sends shivers down most peoples spines and yet it describes the first human relationship mentioned in the Bible. Not only were they naked but even more important was the fact that they felt no shame. This “Shameless Nakedness” describes a key component in human relationships it also describes the state of being when man was first in relationship with God.

Naked – ST. 5903. erom or erom; naked, nakedness
Original Word: עֵירֹם: erom or erom

The root word is “ur” it means to be exposed or laid bare.
Nakedness is the state of nothing being between two beings. In essence nakedness is oneness.

Gen.3:7-11 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made loincloths for themselves. Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden at the time of the evening breeze, and they hid themselves from the LORD God among the trees of the garden. So the LORD God called out to the man and said to him, “Where are you?” And he said, “I heard You in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked, so I hid.” Then He asked, “Who told you that you were naked? Did you eat from the tree that I had commanded you not to eat from?”

I was afraid because I was naked – why does Adam make this statement? Adam went from naked with no shame to naked and afraid.
We see an indication to the reason in God’s response – Who told you, you were naked?

Who told you?
Here are two ways of learning. One is through experience, you experience a life situation and through the experience you discover what is. The other is to be taught or told what is, how things are, and why to respond in a certain way. This way is known as law – Law is the statement of what is good and what is evil. It is grace that allows a person the time of wilderness wandering to discover through experience and it is law that demands you blindly follow a certain way without the means of discovery.

What was Adam told that caused him to be aware of his nakedness and to have a problem with his nakedness?

Gen 3:4-5 “No! You will not die,” the serpent said to the woman. “In fact, God knows that when you eat it your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

“if you do this you will become like God”

or in other words – You are not like God and need to do something to become like Him.

Remember the introduction to the enemy was Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was the most cunning of all the wild animals that the LORD God had made.

Cunning = St 6175 – from arom Definition; crafty, shrewd, sensible, prudent and subtle.

The enemy planted the seed of a lie telling the children of God that in order to be like God they needed to do something. Instead of just organically growing up they needed to add to what God had already done. For the enemy God’s creation was incomplete and still needed to be perfected.

Gen 1:27 So God created man in His own image

Image = 6754. tselem Original Word: צֶ֫לֶם
form , image , likenesses.
TWOT says:– God’s image (He who is Spirit) obviously does not consist in man’s body which was formed from earthly matter, but in his spiritual, intellectual and moral likeness to God from whom his animating breath came.

So Adam and Eve were like God spiritually, intellectually and morally but unlike God they dwelt in body or material form. They were babes i.e. spiritual beings without material experience.

The writer of Job describes it this way – Job 10:11 You clothed me with skin and flesh, and wove me together with bones and tendons.
The image of God finding a home in the flesh.

Your eyes will be opened
Gen 3:6-7 Then the woman saw that the tree was good for food and delightful to look at, and that it was desirable for obtaining wisdom. So she took some of its fruit and ate [it]; she also gave [some] to her husband, [who was] with her, and he ate [it]. Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they knew they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made loincloths for themselves.

The question is what eyes were opened? As we see in the verse “the woman saw that the tree was good for food” She had sight, she had certain understanding.

They knew – St 3045 yada – to know (properly, to ascertain by seeing); used in a great variety of senses, figuratively, literally, euphemistically and inferentially

In other words “to ascertain by seeing” = To use the material eyes to determine what is truth. Those who live by the Spirit “ascertain truth” by the Spirit and not by the natural eye. The eyes that were opened were the natural eyes for judgment – it was now the natural eyes that would determine what was good and what was evil. Up until this point it was the voice of God that they lived by i.e. the Word of God. But when they believed and followed the words of the enemy they were led down a path where they would use their material eyes, brain and senses to determine what only the Spirit of God can truly see and know.
Instead of living life as the God-Man (God’s nature in a material form i.e. the image of God) they choose to live a fleshly life as Man with his 5 senses apart from the Spirit of God. When they choose for themselves this path their spiritual eye closed and they could see what only the fleshly eye can see. And what did they see? Flesh, nakedness, the material world without the ability to see the spiritual world.
Adam and Eve had been spiritual beings living in material bodies but when they choose to live as material beings they lost sight of God, they no longer knew who they were spiritually. They became lost, spiritually blind and for the first time, incomplete, fearful and ashamed.

“I heard You in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked, so I hid.”

Afraid – 3372 to fear Original Word: יָרֵא yare’ – external dread.
Shame – 954. bosh; to be ashamed; to fall into disgrace; be put to confusion when things go contrary to ones expectation.
To go from a state of a spiritual and material world into a state of only the material produced confusion and a dread that led to fear. Instead of hearing God in Spirit he now was hearing Him only through the flesh and God is only one with man in Spirit not in flesh – To Adam God is distant and a stranger. God is spirit and man had chosen to live as flesh this difference brought confusion and man became afraid and ashamed.

They sewed fig leaves together and made loincloths for themselves.
Loincloths 2290 Original Word: חֲגוֹר chagowr apron, armor, girdle
When mankind chose to walk in the material world his answers were all material but his problem was spiritual. He found himself naked and his answer was to take a leaf and make an apron – material covering material this was their answer. His deep sense of loss led to a feeling of lack, it was Adam who tried to fix this lack by covering himself with leaves.
It was Adam & Eve’s spiritual life that died that day. They had lost and forgotten the image of God. They had become like the animals, so, God clothed them in animal skins.

Gen.3:21 The LORD God made clothing out of skins for Adam and his wife, and He clothed them.

God met them where they were, in their material flesh and began to make a way for mankind to return to what he left. Mankind was now to discover the path he choose, a path of the material, 5 senses, fleshly way. And what is the way of the flesh? LAW, The knowledge of Good and Evil.

Jesus Comes the Last Adam and Life-Giving Spirit Returns

1Cor.15:45,49 So it is written: The first man Adam became a living being ; the last Adam became a life-giving Spirit. And just as we have borne the image of the man made of dust,we will also bear the image of the heavenly man.
Jn.10:10 A thief comes only to steal and to kill and to destroy. I have come that they may have life and have it in abundance.

Paul calls Jesus the “Last Adam” because Adam being the first man was the one who choose for mankind a life in the fleshly 5 senses without spiritual eyes or ears. Jesus, the last Adam came to return to mankind what was his to begin with. He came to show man the way back from his state of spiritual darkness and being afraid, confused and lost. Jesus came to show what it was like for a man to walk not after the material, fleshly “LAW” way but to walk after The SPIRIT.

1 Sam.16:7 But the LORD said to Samuel, “Do not look at his appearance or his stature, because I have rejected him. Man does not see what the LORD sees, for man sees what is visible, but the LORD sees the heart.”

Often times I have heard this passage to describe what the Lord sees and what man is unable to see, but this is not the case. It is not that man is unable to see what God sees. It is that Adam chose to live only in the flesh and as such was limited to the material world. We see that the last Adam is not limited in this way He has chosen to live not only in the flesh but also in the Spirit, in union with God.

Jn.2:25 He did not need anyone to testify about man; for He Himself knew what was in man.

John & Jesus – The end and beginning.
Jn.1:29-34 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Here is the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! This is the One I told you about: ‘After me comes a man who has surpassed me, because He existed before me.’ I didn’t know Him, but I came baptizing with water so He might be revealed to Israel.” And John testified, “I watched the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and He rested on Him. I didn’t know Him, but He who sent me to baptize with water told me, ‘The One you see the Spirit descending and resting on—He is the One who baptizes with the Holy Spirit. ‘I have seen and testified that He is the Son of God!”

John represented the pinaacle of what a man following the Law could accomplish. A man is his message and the message of John was one of repentance; a turning away from one way to walk another. And of this other way John did not know but he said to follow the one who did. It is John who stands declaring a new way that not of the Law but of the Holy Spirit.

John 1:17,32-33 for although the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. And John testified, “I watched the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and He rested on Him. I didn’t know Him, but He who sent me to baptize with water told me, ‘The One you see the Spirit descending and resting on—He is the One who baptizes with the Holy Spirit.

Water Baptism = The Death of one way and the desire for a new way. It is the act of faith like Abraham leaving his home not yet knowing where he is going.
Spirit Baptism = The power of the New Way, it is the trans-formative renewal process of a mind that is bent to live in the knowledge of good and evil.

Eph 4:17,18,20-24…. You should no longer walk as the Gentiles walk, in the futility of their thoughts. They are darkened in their understanding, excluded from the life of God, because of the ignorance that is in them and because of the hardness of their hearts….But that is not how you learned about the Messiah, assuming you heard Him and were taught by Him, because the truth is in Jesus: you took off your former way of life, the old man that is corrupted by deceitful desires; you are being renewed in the spirit of your minds; you put on the new man, the one created according to God’s [likeness]

Renewed is to “make new again” the old man or first Adam choose to walk alone without God who is Spirit. The New man is in the image of God i.e. Spirit and Spirit is community and oneness. One body many parts but one body. The man created in God’s image was Adam and Eve; One man, two parts male and female. God’s image is the many but always the many are still One.

Before sin had entered the world, before Adam choose a path with God, God declared something not good in his creation.
Gen 2:18 Then the LORD God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper who is like him.”

The image of God was never to be alone – the image of God is community – oneness with many.

Adam and Eve were the visible expression of the community of God and man. Man walked away from this community but God waits for his return.

Heb.7:11,15-19 If, then, perfection came through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need was there for another priest to arise in the order of Melchizedek, and not to be described as being in the order of Aaron? (And this becomes clearer if another priest like Melchizedek arises, who doesn’t become a [priest] based on a legal command concerning physical descent but based on the power of an indestructible life. For it has been testified:You are a priest forever in the order of Melchizedek. So the previous commandment is annulled because it was weak and unprofitable (for the law perfected nothing), but a better hope is introduced, through which we draw near to God.

The law perfected nothing – In other words the law could never make the flesh, Spirit. Flesh-Man alone is not good, it is the body that was prepared for the Spirit not to be alone.

Heb.10:1 Since the law has [only] a shadow of the good things to come, and not the actual form of those realities, it can never perfect the worshipers by the same sacrifices they continually offer year after year.


The reality is in Spirit not Law which is only a shadow of Spirit activity. A shadow is form with no actual substance or life in it.

Heb 10:19-21 Therefore, brothers, since we have boldness to enter the sanctuary through the blood of Jesus, by the new and living way that He has inaugurated for us, through the curtain (that is, His flesh); and since we have a great high priest over the house of God, let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, our hearts sprinkled [clean] from an evil conscience and our bodies washed in pure water.

The new and living way that Jesus inaugurated for us is life in the Spirit, life in union with God. Which means hearts full of faith and clear consciences with no fear. No longer walking in confidence with our knowledge of good and evil but walking by faith in God, that is hearing and doing that which is spoken by the voice of God within our hearts.

Heb.10:16-17 I will put My laws on their hearts, and I will write them on their minds, [He adds]: I will never again remember their sins and their lawless acts.

It was Jesus who inaugurated this way of listening to a heart and mind that has been saturated even baptized in the Spirit.

Jn.5:30 “I can do nothing on My own. I judge only as I hear, and My judgment is righteous, because I do not seek My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.

Jesus did not judge according to the law of the knowledge of good and evil – Jesus judged according to what His Father said his will to be.

Jn.14:10 Don’t you believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me? The words I speak to you I do not speak on My own. The Father who lives in Me does His works.

It was the first Adam who made the choice to walk in the commandments of the Law of good and evil. This way was alone, independent from the Father. It is the Last Adam who choose to walk in the word of the Father, and invites us to join Him in this New and living relational Way. The Father’s commands are his internal instruction and counsel within us, Christ asks us to listen and obey what is declared within us just as He listened and obeyed the counsel of His Father within Him.

Jn.14:15-21 “If you love Me, you will keep My commandments. And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Counselor to be with you forever. He is the Spirit of truth. The world is unable to receive Him because it doesn’t see Him or know Him. But you do know Him, because He remains with you and will be in you. I will not leave you as orphans; I am coming to you. “In a little while the world will see Me no longer, but you will see Me. Because I live, you will live too. In that day you will know that I am in My Father, you are in Me, and I am in you. The one who has My commands and keeps them is the one who loves Me.

Naked and Unashamed


It was the first man, the first Adam who stood naked and unashamed before God. Together they were One. Mankind turned away from the image of God, the one community, to an existence of material laws of good and evil no longer in community with the Spirit. In the last Adam we see the restoration of that community and communion with Spirit. This last Adam is a man who “does nothing of His own” but always in communion with the Father of Spirits. It is here at the end of his material life on earth that we find the last Adam physically and spiritually naked and yet unashamed.

Luke 23:33 -37 When they arrived at the place called The Skull, they crucified Him there, along with the criminals, one on the right and one on the left. [ hen Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, because they do not know what they are doing.” ] And they divided His clothes and cast lots. The people stood watching, and even the leaders kept scoffing: “He saved others; let Him save Himself if this is God’s Messiah, the Chosen One!” The soldiers also mocked Him. They came offering Him sour wine and said, “If You are the King of the Jews, save Yourself!

Jesus was not in confusion here nor had things gone contrary to his expectation. Jesus was willingly being the end of Adam’s rebellion against God – The end of an independent existence lived out in the knowledge and laws of Good and Evil. Jesus lived in oneness with the Father and oneness with everyone he ever met. He never saw two, simply one as he demonstrates on the cross. He says: Father, forgive them, because they do not know what they are doing.”

Jesus knew the state of man and that sin is because of ignorance but on the cross Jesus the light had come to enlighten the understanding of the darkened mind of man.

Jesus was not hiding behind any laws or pleading for justice because of his innocence. He did not cover himself with anything, he felt no need for justification in anyway. Jesus knew who he was. He knew who mankind was. Jesus was naked, unashamed declaring to all humanity that mankind is the child of God, His very image and that we can remember that we are One. We don’t need to try and justify why God should love and accept us – we simply need to believe and receive. Openly, nakedly and intimately receive the love and acceptance of God who declares himself One with us.

Our nakedness is not a state of material being it is an expression of the “I Amness” of mankind of the I AM of God. It is accepting God’s creation as good and perfect. It is a remembering of who we are, the image of God. Clothing is an adding to, its foundation is the idea that as you are is not good enough. This is the great lie of the enemy that you “need to become” like God. As long as you are trying to “become” you will always be clothing yourself with fig leaves, living in fear of God and man and trying to justify your existence.

When Jesus was tempted by the enemy the first two temptations were a challenge to prove identity. “If You are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread.” In essence he was asking Jesus to put on the clothes of the miraculous in order to justify and prove his being the son of God. The response of Jesus was a declaration that man lives on every word that comes from the mouth of God. And what had just come from the mouth of God was “This is My beloved Son. I take delight in Him!” The word of God was what Jesus experienced, sustained his life, and nothing else needed to be added to that. Before the enemy he remained naked (adding nothing to what was) and unashamed.

Jesus lived life as he was, never falling into the trap of trying to justify his life but lived a life Naked before God and Man adding nothing to what already is. If you live life trying to be justified, Christ’s life, message and death is meaningless but to those who see the Light know that the Just live by Faith alone i.e. Naked before God and man. These are the ones who come to fully know themselves as God knows them, these are the ones who experience knowing Love.
1 Cor.13:12 For now we see indistinctly, as in a mirror, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I will know fully, as I am fully known.


Heb. 11:35-39 Some men were tortured, not accepting release, so that they might gain a better resurrection, and others experienced mockings and scourgings, as well as bonds and imprisonment. They were stoned, they were sawed in two, they died by the sword, they wandered about in sheepskins, in goatskins, destitute, afflicted, and mistreated. The world was not worthy of them. They wandered in deserts, mountains, caves, and holes in the ground. All these were approved through their faith.


Holistic Christianity – Working out your Salvation

Holistic Christianity

Working out your Salvation

Rom.14:23b ………….and everything that is not from faith is sin.

Col.2:19 He doesn’t hold on to the head, from whom the whole body, nourished and held together by its ligaments and tendons, develops with growth from God.

Rom.14:1 Accept anyone who is weak in faith, but don’t argue about doubtful issues. 2 One person believes he may eat anything, but one who is weak eats only vegetables.

What we are looking at here is the confused relationship between the Law and Faith in Jesus Christ.

The Law = The rules and reality of “cause and effect”

Faith in Jesus = Hearing the voice of the Lord internally, believing and doing.

One is ‘directive’ (Faith) and one is ‘descriptive’ (Law)

The law is not to be used to tell us what to do or how to live.  It is not our guide.

Gal.3:21 Is the law therefore contrary to God’s promises? Absolutely not! For if a law had been given that was able to give life, then righteousness would certainly be by the law.

Rom.14:3-4 One who eats must not look down on one who does not eat; and one who does not eat must not criticize one who does, because God has accepted him. Who are you to criticize another’s household slave? Before his own Lord he stands or falls. And stand he will! For the Lord is able to make him stand.

This is the Lord who dwells within the household slave – It is the work of the Lord who will make His voice known to the household slave and cause him to stand in Faith.

Rom.1:5-8 One person considers one day to be above another day. Someone else considers every day to be the same. Each one must be fully convinced in his own mind. 6 Whoever observes the day, observes it to the Lord. Whoever eats, eats to the Lord, since he gives thanks to God; and whoever does not eat, it is to the Lord that he does not eat, yet he thanks God. 7 For none of us lives to himself, and no one dies to himself. 8 If we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. Therefore, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord.

This is descriptive of the process of discovering oneself. You are not your own – You have been made one with God through Jesus Christ. You  cannot divide your “Being” from Him.   You can choose the Path you walk on but you cannot choose who your spiritual Father is.

Rom.1:9-12 Christ died and came to life for this: that He might rule over both the dead and the living. 10 But you, why do you criticize your brother? Or you, why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God. 11 For it is written: As I live, says the Lord, every knee will bow to Me, and every tongue will give praise to God. 12 So then, each of us will give an account of himself to God.

The Lord is the only TEACHER or GUIDE anybody will ever need.

Heb.8:11 And each person will not teach his fellow citizen, and each his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ because they will all know Me, from the least to the greatest of them.

John 14:23-26 Jesus answered, …… “I have spoken these things to you while I remain with you. But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit ;the Father will send Him in My name;will teach you all things and remind you of everything I have told you.

Matt.23:9-10″Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. 10″Do not be called leaders; for One is your Leader, that is, Christ.

Rom.14:13 Therefore, let us no longer criticize one another, but instead decide not to put a stumbling block or pitfall in your brother’s way.

One who points out to a brother that something they believe should be this brothers belief as well. It is making the “law” directive instead of simply being descriptive.

Rom.1:14-23 (I know and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself. Still, to someone who considers a thing to be unclean, to that one it is unclean. 15 For if your brother is hurt by what you eat, you are no longer walking according to love. By what you eat, do not destroy that one for whom Christ died. 16 Therefore, do not let your good be slandered, 17 for the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit. 18 Whoever serves the Messiah in this way is acceptable to God and approved by men.

The Kingdom of God – This is entered into by those who practice Union/Companionship with with God. The Kingdom of God is not about following rules of right and wrong, good and evil: it is about living a life together in relationship with God – Doing everything together with Him. If I do everything together with Him – I do all things in faith.

Rom.1:19 So then, we must pursue what promotes peace and what builds up one another. 20 Do not tear down God’s work because of food. Everything is clean, but it is wrong for a man to cause stumbling by what he eats. 21 It is a noble thing not to eat meat, or drink wine, or do anything that makes your brother stumble. 22 Do you have faith? Keep it to yourself before God. Blessed is the man who does not condemn himself by what he approves. 23 But whoever doubts stands condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith, and everything that is not from faith is sin.

Do you have faith?

What is your answer to: “why you are doing what you are doing?”

If this is not your answer: “After talking it over with the Father we decided “

Then what you are doing is in sin and is not being done in faith. This is what a life of sin is. It is not simply a life of evil but it is a life of good and evil lived independent of Jesus Christ. Its when a man says in his heart “I will”.

Heb.4:12-13 For the word of God is living and effective and sharper than any two-edged sword, penetrating as far as to divide soul, spirit, joints, and marrow; it is a judge of the ideas and thoughts of the heart. 13 No creature is hidden from Him, but all things are naked and exposed to the eyes of Him to whom we must give an account.

The “WORD of GOD” that the writer of Hebrews is talking about is not the Bible. The WORD of GOD that the writer of Hebrews is referring to is Jesus Christ – The WORD made flesh that dwells within you. It is this WORD that we need to have “ears to hear” – It is through this WORD that we are led, guided and discover our Father and ourselves. It is to this WORD that we point each other. We are led out of the dark places of our thoughts and understanding and led into the saving light of Truth. It is through this “WORD” that we come to know the TRUTH and this TRUTH sets us free!

Col.2: 2 I want their hearts to be encouraged and joined together in love, so that they may have all the riches of assured understanding, and have the knowledge of God’s mystery Christ. 3 In Him all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge are hidden.

The knowledge of God’s mystery is not a teaching, a doctrine or something to be found in the Bible – the KNOWLEDGE of God’s Mystery is only found in a real and active relationship with the indwelling CHRIST HIMSELF.

Col.2:4-8 I am saying this so that no one will deceive you with persuasive arguments. 5 For I may be absent in body, but I am with you in spirit, rejoicing to see your good order and the strength of your faith in Christ. Therefore as you have received Christ Jesus the Lord, walk in Him, 7 rooted and built up in Him and established in the faith, just as you were taught, and overflowing with thankfulness. Be careful that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deceit based on human tradition, based on the elemental forces of the world, and not based on Christ.

One can be deceived by persuasive arguments, philosophy based on human tradition. Both of these elements created the basis for much of our Christian practice today. Persuasive arguments become our doctrines “about Christ” Philosophy based on Human Tradition become church practices, the liturgy.

Wikipedia – A liturgy is the customary public worship done by a specific religious group, according to their particular traditions.

Col.2:9-10 For in Him the entire fullness of God’s nature dwells bodily, and you have been filled by Him, who is the head over every ruler and authority.

The entire fullness of God’s nature dwells inside of YOU because God has become ONE with you! It is this nature that dwells within you that you can live by. You now have a choice – you can live by the old natural nature or by the new Godly nature.

Col.2:11 In Him you were also circumcised with a circumcision not done with hands, by putting off the body of flesh, in the circumcision of the Messiah. 12 Having been buried with Him in baptism, you were also raised with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead. 13 And when you were dead in trespasses and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, He made you alive with Him and forgave us all our trespasses. 14 He erased the certificate of debt, with its obligations, that was against us and opposed to us, and has taken it out of the way by nailing it to the cross. 15 He disarmed the rulers and authorities and disgraced them publicly; He triumphed over them by Him. 16 Therefore don’t let anyone judge you in regard to food and drink or in the matter of a festival or a new moon or a sabbath day.

IN HIM, WITH HIM, BY HIM – This speaks of the relationship of ONENESS – We are not to look at, assess, judge or do anything outside of Him. As He goes so do we! He has forever joined Himself to us – ARE WE GOING TO JOIN OURSELF TO HIM????

Col.2:17-23 These are a shadow of what was to come; the substance is the Messiah. 18 Let no one disqualify you, insisting on ascetic practices and the worship of angels, claiming access to a visionary realm and inflated without cause by his fleshly mind. 19 He doesn’t hold on to the head, from whom the whole body, nourished and held together by its ligaments and tendons, develops with growth from God. 20 If you died with Christ to the elemental forces of this world, why do you live as if you still belonged to the world? Why do you submit to regulations: 21 “Don’t handle, don’t taste, don’t touch”? 22 All these [regulations] refer to what is destroyed by being used up; they are human commands and doctrines. 23 Although these have a reputation of wisdom by promoting ascetic practices, humility, and severe treatment of the body, they are not of any value against fleshly indulgence.

You can hold to the Head and Live By Him, In Him and With Him or like Adam and Eve choose to live apart from Him by yourself. You can live by a knowledge of the Law (understanding universal cause and effect) or by the Being of Christ which is being led by the Holy Spirit. This Spirit, if we interact with him, will renew our minds.

Jesus Christ is not a religion, following Jesus does not need to be through a religion.

Wikipedia – A religion is an organized approach to human spirituality which usually encompasses a set of narratives, symbols, beliefs and practices, often with a supernatural or transcendent quality, that give meaning to the practitioner’s experiences of life through reference to a higher power or truth.

How we approach Jesus and interact with Him does not need to be through religion. It seems many Christians have segregated their relationship with Jesus to a religious experience that does not touch the secular life.

Wikipedia Secular – This word derives from a Latin word meaning “of the age“. The Christian doctrine that God exists outside time led medieval Western culture to use secular to indicate separation from religious affairs and involvement in worldly (or time-related) ones. This meaning has been extended to apply to separation from any religion, regardless of whether it has a similar doctrine. Secularity (adjective form secular) is the state of being separate from religion. For instance, eating and bathing may be regarded as examples of secular activities, because there may not be anything inherently religious about them.

God wants to be our companion, guide and wonderful counselor in every aspect of our being. God can lead us into the Truth in every area of our life. From mowing the lawn, to raising your children, marriage and business, Jesus can help you and guide you if you let Him. Every area of darkness and confusion that exists within our understanding He wants to bring light to and save us from.

Phil.2:12 -15 So then, my dear friends, just as you have always obeyed,…..work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. For it is God who is working in you, [enabling you] both to will and to act for His good purpose. Do everything without grumbling …, …pure, children of God ….in a crooked and perverted generation, among whom you shine like stars in the world.


Brokenness – The Way in which we learn to Trust in our Walk Together

Brokenness

The Way in which we Learn to Trust in our Walk Together

Before a horse can be of use to a man he must first be “broken”. Before a man can be of use to God he must be broken.

Horse breaking, sometimes called starting or gentling, refers to the process used by humans to get horses to let themselves be ridden or harnessed. Before such a
learning process is accomplished, a horse will normally reject attempts to ride it. Once a horse has accepted basic handling by humans, additional forms of horse training can be used to teach the horse any number of specialized skills.
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As we read the stories in the Bible we read of the servants of God and the “breaking” process they went through to become useful to God.

The list is many – Abraham, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, Jonah, Sampson, David, Jesus, Peter, Paul and the list goes on and on.

Jesus said – “I can do nothing on My own initiative. As I hear, I judge; and My judgment is just, because I do not seek My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. Jn.5:30

Jesus was not a man who sought his own will or his own way. Its not that he abandoned his will: He simply did not exercise an independent will apart from the Father like both Adam and Eve had done. Another way of saying it was – he sought a life with His Father not apart from His Father like the prodigal son did. He sought a life together with His Father recognizing the fact – His Father had given Him everything and did not separate His Life from His Son. The Father’s will is not independent nor is it over and against the will of His Son. Jeffery Rolo describes the nature of horse breaking in this way:

Rather than list the common errors committed during horse breaking I’ll cut straight to the chase since such errors pale in comparison to the overall fatal flaw inherent in breaking a horse: the act itself! Contrary to the belief of some, when preparing a horse for saddle our goal is not to break a horse’s spirit, but rather to create a willing and accepting partner. Ruling a horse via fear and abusive treatment is not only reprehensible by its very nature, it is also highly unnecessary as horses can easily become willing partners if shown kindness, patience and compassion.

Some people possess the belief that horses are willful beasts not capable of exhibiting loyalty or reasonable behavior. As such, they believe horses should be dealt with using extreme force until the human breaks and conquers the horse’s spirit. Frederico Grisone, a handler that lived in the mid-1500’s and has also been credited with laying the foundations of modern dressage, was one such individual. Although I do believe the horse world has become more enlightened in modern times, unfortunately there are those who still to this day adopt violent training techniques.”

I would use the same words as Jeffery has here in speaking about how God brings us to a place of partnership with Him. The process is called “Brokenness” and it is a painful one especially for the Bucking Bronco types. If we desire to be a useful partner to our Father, in other words a Son, we need our independent way of living life broken by a loving Father who desire to share His life together with us and not over us.

One thing said about Jesus: Though a Son, He learned obedience through what He suffered. Heb.5:8

Jesus had to learn obedience? This should be a comforting thought for us – Jesus, the Son of God HAD TO LEARN OBEDIENCE the same way we do. Jesus had to be broken.

The fight

Why do we fight our Father? Ultimately Fear – But specifically it is a fear of Enslavement.horse

The result of sin – Independence from the Father – Like sheep without a Shepard we become fearful of oppressive leaders.

Sons of Israel to Joseph
Gen. 37:8 Then his brothers said to him, “
Are you actually going to reign over us? Or are you really going to rule over us?” So they hated him even more for his dreams and for his words.

Israelites to Moses
Ex. 2:14 But he said, “
Who made you a prince or a judge over us? Are you intending to kill me as you killed the Egyptian?” Then Moses was afraid and said, “Surely the matter has become known.”

Pilate to the Jews
John 19:15 ….
Pilate said to them, “Should I crucify your king?”  “We have no king but Caesar!” the chief priests answered.

Because we are creatures created in the image and likeness of God we are also Creators and like our Father we do not want to be under any law. God needs no law – God is. In the same way because we are created in God’s image – we need no law. So why did God give us the law? He gave us the law to show us what we had chosen to be apart from Him. The law demonstrated to us that apart from God we could do nothing.

Jesus says: “I am the vine; you are the branches. The one who remains in Me and I in him produces much fruit, because you can do nothing without Me. Jn.15:5

Apart from God we are incomplete- the law was unable to be our partner and do what only a relationship with the Father could do. The law could only be our Master and never a partner. The image of God in creation is Adam and Eve – The Man and His Partner, his Counterpart – Not the man and his slave. The the image of God – God and His Counterpart taken from His side, Man!

Heb 7:19 (for the law perfected nothing), but a better hope is introduced, through which we draw near to God.

Heb.10:1 Since the law has [only] a shadow of the good things to come, and not the actual form of those realities, it can never perfect the worshipers by the same sacrifices they continually offer year after year.

The Law could not display what only a man could demonstrate – A relationship with the Father!

Heb 12:2 keeping our eyes on Jesus, the source and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy that lay before Him endured a cross and despised the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of God’s throne.

It is the living out on earth the relationship that Jesus has with our Father that has given us hope. He showed us all that a man can know God, can fellowship with God and be accepted by Him. Jesus demonstrated that man does not need to fight for a good life. Man has nothing to fear – not even death can separate a man from the Love of His Father.

THE TRAINING

Heb 12:11 No discipline seems enjoyable at the time, but painful. Later on, however, it yields the fruit of peace and righteousness to those who have been trained by it.

It is the place of the Father/Servant to train His Sons in Life. And it is this Father/Servant who will train all of His Sons until they are all made perfect.

Heb 5:8-9 Though a Son, He learned obedience through what He suffered. After He was perfected, He became the source of eternal salvation to all who obey Him.

What is Perfection?

It is talked about in the story of the Rich Young Ruler i.e. The Bucking Bronco!

Matt. 19:16-29 ….”Teacher, what good must I do to have eternal life?”

“Why do you ask Me about what is good?” He said to him. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”

“Which ones?” he asked Him.

Jesus answered, Do not murder; do not commit adultery; do not steal; do not bear false witness; honor your father and your mother; and love your neighbor as yourself.

“I have kept all these,” the young man told Him. “What do I still lack?”

Keeping the Law does not make us perfect. Even if a man keeps every law he still finds that his life is lacking, unfulfilled and in need of something more. Perfection is what we seek when we seek the Jesus Christ and His kingdom on earth.

“If you want to be perfect,” Jesus said to him, “go, sell your belongings and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow Me.

When the young man heard that command, he went away grieving, because he had many possessions.

IF YOU WANT PERFECTION COME FOLLOW ME!

…..Then Peter responded to Him, “Look, we have left everything and followed You. So what will there be for us?”

You got to love Peter he just speaks what he is thinking.

Jesus said to them, “I assure you: In the Messianic Age, when the Son of Man sits on His glorious throne, you who have followed Me will also sit on 12 thrones, judging the 12 tribes of Israel. And everyone who has left houses, brothers or sisters, father or mother, children, or fields because of My name will receive 100 times more and will inherit eternal life.

It was not to the one who keeps the law but to the one who hears the voice of the Lord and follows Him this is the man who will be blessed beyond measure.

Why was the rich young ruler unable to do as the Lord asked Him – Remember he kept all the commandments – Why was he unable upon hearing Jesus speak to follow what he said?

He had many possessions – In other words – It was harder for him to be aware of his aloneness, destitution and independence. It was not until the prodigal had spent everything and was in the pig pen that he became aware of what independence from His Father meant. Following the law has nothing to do with a relationship – following God’s words to you has everything to do with trust in a relationship.

He was not yet broken. Now these are broken men –

Num. 14:24 But since My servant Caleb has a different spirit and has followed Me completely,I will bring him into the land where he has gone, and his descendants will inherit it.

Lk 5:27 After this, Jesus went out and saw a tax collector named Levi sitting at the tax office, and He said to him, “Follow Me!”

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Cor. 11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ. Paul

To follow someone you must keep your eyes and ears trained on Him and Him alone. Seeing Him, hearing Him and following Him wherever He leads you. Like two that become one – so we live our life
together with Christ. This is what fellowship in Christ is all about. Sharing with your brothers and sisters what you have seen with spiritual eyes and heard with spiritual ears of your daily life in Christ.

1 John 1:3 what we have seen and heard we also declare to you, so that you may have fellowship along with us; and indeed our fellowship is with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ.

To be broken is not to be broken in spirit or will it is to have your independent, individualistic selfish, self-centered way of thinking exposed for the harm that it has brought to you. It is to wake up and
realize that your way of thinking has brought you to the place of living and even eating with the pigs. You finally have a moment where you can see what is and realize that because of your way of thinking you are alone and alone you can do nothing but together with your Father, all things are possible!girl-horse

The Prayer of the Broken

Prov. 3:5-6 Trust in the LORD with all your heart, and do not rely on your own understanding; think about Him in all your ways, and He will guide you on the right paths.


The difference between a Seeker and One with Understanding

The difference between a Seeker and One with Understanding

 

Last Saturday at our gathering I happen to have an observation (this happens on rare occasions). In the conversation we were having we were talking about some of the visitors who had passed through a gathering or two and some of the brothers and sisters from our past who we had known.

The question came up “why is it so difficult to have fellowship with some brothers and sisters and relatively easy with others?”. Personality didn’t seem to answer the question because their were just to many different types of personalities that had visited and were in the room. The thought that came to me was the issue of both knowing and seeking. I have met a lot of brothers and sisters who are very comfortable with the God they know. They are interested in new insights here and their as long as they fit into their present religious world view and in this outline they feel they have come to a pretty good understanding of who God is and how He operates.

Then you have the people who have either had their Christian church pull out from under them, some seem to find God in any and everything and still others want to know God but cannot stand Christianity in any way shape or form. They are seekers who just don’t settle for cramming square pegs into round holes even though if you push hard enough you can get them in.

Judaism as a religion rejected God/Jesus because He did not fit into their religious world view. Christianity has rejected God/many brothers and sisters (you know “if you have done it unto the least of these my brethren you have done it unto me”) over the years because their understanding did not fit into the Churches (i.e. Church Leaderships) religious world view.

The nature of the seeker is to explore and some times in exploration you go down dead ends and other times you find new discoveries that cause you to rethink so much, almost all of what you have understood. The key characteristic of the Seeker is that he does not fear what he does not know or understand. The seeker does not hold what he has learned or come to know very tightly because he realizes that in order to gain the new he will have to let go of the old. The key characteristic of the Understanding person is protection. They like their overall understanding and do not allow it to be moved or attacked as they would understand it. The Understanding  person likes greater understanding to be added to their knowing but they have come to a place in their life where they do not explore brand new things because like Jesus said as recorded in

 Luke 5: 39  And no one after drinking old wine wants the new, for he says, ‘The old is better.’ “

I do not say all this to say that the Understanding person has arrived or is better than the Seeker or vice versa I simply say this as an observation as to why some brothers and sisters have a hard time fellowshipping with other brothers and sisters. Some tweak what they know while others let go of what they know to gain the new.